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« Reply #480 on: March 21, 2020, 01:41:21 AM »

I would take it to a local muffler shop and have it welded. Might cost $50.
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« Reply #481 on: March 21, 2020, 02:16:07 AM »

The play sucked.  Joan’s idea may be an option.  I think I would get an after market if it looks good on the Scoot and do the work myself (Bob that is) . 

On the earlier subject th  ride you took with your friend looked very nice.
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« Reply #482 on: March 22, 2020, 11:41:03 PM »

Oddly enough, someone totaled the exact year of my 946 up in Canada and there's parts all listed on ebay, plus a muffler for $297.50 + $40.00 shipping. This muffler looks pretty beat up so I'll pass.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13-17-Vespa-946-Bellissima-Exhaust-Pipe-Muffler-Slip-On-Can-Silencer-1a0076655/324099239852?fits=Model%3A946%7CMake%3AVespa&hash=item4b75d1efac:g:fKEAAOSw3TNeZ~wz
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« Reply #483 on: March 24, 2020, 10:10:55 PM »

I was thinking of making an offer of $100 plus $40 shipping to the seller. I'm sure it will be denied but you have to knock to see if somebody's home. The seller states that the wrecked scoot had 6731 Km/4,182 miles on that muffler.

The seller on fleabay got back to me with just a straight decline which means they were most likely insulted. So this option is a no go.


So I'm assembling Bella back together to get it off the rack with the new tire installed.


On the center cap there's 3 thick rubber O-rings that help secure the cap and one of them has split. I have a box of o-rings but none of them are that thick I temporarily placed one on in the meantime and placed another order of parts from AF1 of various tidbits.


I haven't heard a word from Piaggio so moving forward, I'll see if I can get this pipe welded. I called one local welder and texted him pictures. He wanted no parts of it as he taking the stance of defective metal.


Called the next welder and texted pics and I'll drop off the muffler in the morning. By hook or crook, I'll get Bella back in action here soon.
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« Reply #484 on: March 25, 2020, 07:13:32 AM »

It's a wise man that knows his limitations.
It's a wise woman that knows her limitations.
It's a wise they that knows their limitations.
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« Reply #485 on: March 25, 2020, 06:58:28 PM »

It's a wise man that knows his limitations.
It's a wise woman that knows her limitations.
It's a wise they that knows their limitations.
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Yep!
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« Reply #486 on: March 25, 2020, 07:01:16 PM »

I'm sure folks are sick of my muffler drama! Get ready for the next episode of 946 Colon Cancer!

I shot a followup email to Piaggio and they got right back with. It appears that they're still in discussions and I may have screwed the pooch on getting the old one welded. It must be pretty serious as we have a Italian gent looking into the matter. A Mr. Guillermo Aramayo.


Off to the local welder for a fix. This shop clearly works on heavy equipment!


I handed him the 'Il silenziatore scoreggia' (the fart muffler)


He chose to use a MIG not a TIG welder nor was I comfortable telling a man how to do his job regarding the above recommendations to use TIG.



He said he made 2 passes on it to reinforce it. His normal minimum is $80, he charged me $40.



I've had enough of the damn virus threads filled with doom and gloom so I'm doing what I do and writing about it hopefully to provide some content that is 2 wheeled related.

45*F here today and pouring rain so I'll have to wait to shoot it with some heat BBQ paint and final assembly.

Life is short enjoy the ride!

Eric
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« Reply #487 on: March 25, 2020, 09:26:56 PM »

Looks like a hardy weld. Should hold. No one but you will know on the road but exhaust leaks are always bad.
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« Reply #488 on: March 25, 2020, 09:44:41 PM »

Looks like a hardy weld. Should hold. No one but you will know on the road but exhaust leaks are always bad.

I sure hope so, welds can be short term or long term. Time will tell! Thanks for popping and commenting.
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« Reply #489 on: March 25, 2020, 09:54:02 PM »

Might be a terrific welder, but grinding without any PPE, would have gotten him a stern talking to, if not something more, in my shop. There seems to be very little splatter, so the weld should be excellent.
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« Reply #490 on: March 25, 2020, 10:56:15 PM »

Well I think he was grinding to get a negative ground on one of the mounts and a clean positive on the weld joint as he was using a MIG. I'm a self proclaimed n00b on welding so I really don't know?
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« Reply #491 on: March 26, 2020, 06:58:14 AM »

Definitions needed...
MIG
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« Reply #492 on: March 26, 2020, 02:06:56 PM »

Definitions needed...
MIG
TIG
PPE

MIG - Gas metal arc welding, sometimes referred to by its subtypes metal inert gas welding or metal active gas welding, is a welding process in which an electric arc forms between a consumable MIG wire electrode and the workpiece metal, which heats the workpiece metal, causing them to melt and join.

TIG - (TIG) welding, is an arc welding process that uses a non-consumable tungsten electrode to produce the weld. The weld area and electrode is protected from oxidation or other atmospheric contamination by an inert shielding gas (argon or helium), and a filler metal is normally used, though some welds, known as autogenous welds, do not require it. When helium is used, this is known as heliarc welding. A constant-current welding power supply produces electrical energy, which is conducted across the arc through a column of highly ionized gas and metal vapors known as a plasma.

PPE - I can't comment on as I don't know the reference myself.
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« Reply #493 on: March 26, 2020, 03:06:12 PM »

PPE - personal protective equipment, i.e., safety glasses, gloves, (especially when grinding). Using a grinder without the guard in place is a termination type offense. Same with safety glasses. At least in shops where OSHA regulations are followed.
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« Reply #494 on: March 26, 2020, 05:39:17 PM »

Thanks, guys. I got PPE the other two are so far over my head I'll just trust that they're different ways of sticking metal together without duct tape. (I understand duct tape.)
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« Reply #495 on: March 26, 2020, 10:33:03 PM »

So happy you got that fixed, must be a relief.  Next time straight pipe under the scoot! 
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« Reply #496 on: March 27, 2020, 01:03:43 AM »

946 Colon Cancer - hopefully the final chapter!

So I reinstalled the muffler after I shot a couple of coats of heat BBQ paint which was giving me the devil getting it to line up properly. The heat shields cover the unsightly weld so good to go there!


Next up replace the sparkplug that probably doesn't need replaced.


Not too bad!


Adjust the sparkplug gap per the manual.



So I fired up the scoot to warm the oil up. Here's a short video of warming it up and checking for exhaust leaks.
https://vimeo.com/401152797

Time for the oil change, so I'm checking the service manual and it says remove the muffler first. Doh! :doh I felt there was enough room for me to still make it happen with the muffler in place and gave it a go. The screen filter oil cap must have been put on by a gorilla as I had to use a breaker bar to get it free. (throw in a few busted knuckles)



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« Reply #497 on: March 27, 2020, 01:12:32 AM »

The screen filter came out nice and clean.



I took off the old oil filter and you can see where the tech that performed the last oil change appears to have just grabbed it with giant pliers and crewed it on... This is the reason I wrench on my own stuff...


The new filter has a bizarre over on it that must need a special tool? I got it on never the less.


Time to fill it up with new oil. On this scoot you fill it through the dipstick hole which is rather small. Check out this cool oil spout that came on the Motul oil.


Manual says 1340 cm3 of oil? Google and here's what I get. I converted cm3 to oz.



Tomorrow is the final drive oil and this one is dome if the weld holds.

Thanks for reading.

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« Reply #498 on: March 27, 2020, 03:29:31 PM »

That screw on cap/funnel thingy may be worth hanging onto.
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