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« on: July 20, 2017, 01:03:25 AM »

I have asked this question elsewhere but how many Honda Forza 300's have been made?

Are they going to be a rare collectors bike?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 01:47:13 AM »

I very doubt that Forza 300s are rare.  I think they sell fairly decent.  I'm saying this because I was at a Honda dealer in Cincinnati on Saturday and they were a small dealership, they only had one Goldwing on the floor and not more then 25 or so new bikes in their inventory and they had three Forza on the floor.  When I was talking to them about it they said that they sell more Forzas then Goldwings.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2017, 09:27:02 AM »

Yeah, they sell so much that Honda has discontinued them here in Canada.
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2017, 05:56:46 PM »

The Forza is a great scoot. I loved it. However, I sold it when the local dealer told me they wouldn't work on it without inflated prices. For example, $300 labor to change a rear tire. I did most things myself, but sometimes wanted to pay the extra to avoid the work since retiring. If a Honda dealer won't support their own product, I wasn't about to keep it either.
Yes, discontinued here(States) also.(<---Edit: That is incorrect. Just not selling/stocking them in my area)

I've become disheartened by Honda dealers lately due to their lack of support. I purchased a CTX1300 and had to beg them to sell it to me. I didn't even ask for a discount. I called a different dealer thinking it was just this one while searching for a new Silver Wing and the salesperson said he didn't have one and wasn't going to look for one.
A bit off topic, but I've actually had good luck with 2 Honda mechanics that quit their jobs and became self employed. While their personalities are lacking, their work and ethics are beyond expectations.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2017, 06:15:14 PM »

I think it is a shame, but I don't think many did sell in NA. The full-bodied maxi style has been dominated by the Burgmans.... It is also true, IMHO, that maxis just don't sell well in NA generally. I did see one at a Burnaby (BC, Canada) shop but that was over a year ago. I don't think I've ever seen one on the road, and I do tend to notice other scoots. And on this coast, scooters are as popular as anywhere in Canada I would think.

The Forza may be rare, or have sold in modest numbers, but I don't think it or any of these scoots will be collectable, or more valuable. I suspect the fact that it is a Honda may be it's best quality in terms of retaining any value. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2017, 06:28:29 AM »

Having had both a Honda Reflex & a couple of Helix's Sitting on the Forza felt small compared to its predecessor's. Haven't had the chance to ride one yet.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2017, 02:10:05 PM »

Had a Reflex owner stop to talk about my Forza at a gas station, the bikes have some common styling. The guys comment was he wished he still had his Reflex but liked the Forza. I've never seen any numbers on sale volume per model with Honda but given the culture here in the US suspect the numbers were low. Dealer here still has a couple 2016s in his inventory. I like the bike and its been great for the island. My only real complaint was a stiff suspension but I think its a common complaint in most scoot designs. Bike has been pretty reliable, great MPG on an island with two near 14000 ft Mountains and 275 miles around it does what I want. Looking at the Kymco 400 Xicting test ride next week but really it would have to be a vast improvement for me to want to dump the Forza for now.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2017, 05:14:58 PM »

Without a doubt, the Forza was the worst scooter I have every owned. Despite the extremely good MPG and the pleasant ride on good roads, the combination of the stiff suspension and terrible roads near my house made my return home each trip a spine-jarring problem. Replacing the rear shocks may have aleviated that problem but with 3 recalls and 2 returns to the dealer to fix issues the dealer caused while dealing with the recalls all within 9 months of ownership, I needed to part ways with this scooter. I hope that Honda has been able to fix the problems with this model and make it as reliable as the PCX.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2017, 05:47:54 AM »

My wife had a Reflex and now has a Forza, so I've ridden them both.
The Reflex felt very primitive and was pathetically slow. The 2-stage CVT created a flat spot at around 30mph that was more than annoying, it was dangerous.
The Forza is noticeably quicker, but still no powerhouse. I've also ridden a Kymco 300 and it would outrun a Forza handily. The Forza is a lot more cramped than the Reflex. My elbows are at 90 degrees when I ride it. You can definitely feel the improved technology on the Forza. Everything from the engine to the brakes to the handling are much improved on the Forza, as they should be.
There are some design problems with the Forza. The spin on oil filter is screwed in from the side instead of the bottom, so there's no way to change it without spilling a good bit of oil. The rear grab rail MUST be removed in a certain order or there are 2 very fragile tabs that will break. Thankfully the mechanic did this at the Honda shop, not me. And then there's the fuel pump which has been recalled twice.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2017, 07:29:37 AM »

I have 67,000 km on my Forza and I like the scooter NOW.

I suspect it came from the factory with no oil in the forks. A one inch bump would bottom the Forks harshly. I also suspect that the rear brakes were put on incorrectly. The water pump was put in incorrectly, a minor oil leak.

Mine was probably made at the beginning of the first week of production.

The original owner dropped it in a parking lot with under 800 km on the bike. Minor plastics damage but our under investigation government insurance wrote the almost new Forza completely off. Fraud?

I abuse the Forza and ride it hard. It just keeps going.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 08:53:12 PM »

Its been a good bike for 9k now without issues or leaks. Bike has never let me down and I take it everywhere I can on an island that is only 275 miles to get around. Pavement or gravel. I know its angle and height limits and have a few scars (on the bike ) as the result of testing those limits. Replaced one lower black panel that I cracked on a turn for $53 bucks other than that she looks as good as the day I took it off the show room floor. All I've ever done is change out the rear tire and oil, filter and air filter. No major complaints it does what it was designed to do. Would I suggest or make changes if I wanted to throw money at it? Sure, don't know many riders who wouldn't with their own bikes. Thought more power might sway me (test ride on Kymco 400 Xciting ) but don't think it was enough to give up what I have for now.
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2017, 06:39:31 PM »

While the Forza did not work out for me, I am glad that you have found a scooter that you enjoy and one that is reliable. Happy riding!
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2017, 10:50:58 AM »

My local Honda dealer still has a brand new 2014 Honda Forza 300 sitting on the dealer floor. It was made in June 2013 and within a day or two of mine. I should buy it for spare parts.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2017, 01:33:23 PM »

I read the top speed of the Forza is a bit over 90. Is that actual? My Majesty  only does like 93 or so and that's a 400.
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2017, 10:54:50 PM »

At 205lbs, tall windshield, flat road, 65ºF, tucked in tight behind the windshield, I got 85mph max out of mine.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2017, 06:45:55 PM »

On a downhill maybe but never got it above 85 on the flats

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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2017, 12:32:28 AM »

At 205lbs, tall windshield, flat road, 65F, tucked in tight behind the windshield, I got 85mph max out of mine.

Unless your numbers are from a GPS, now would be a good time to subtract up to ten percent of your speedometer readings to accommodate the speedo error almost universally inherent in them.

A 'true' 85 mph out of a 300cc scooter would be, to put it diplomatically.....rather exceptional.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2017, 05:09:04 PM »

At 205lbs, tall windshield, flat road, 65F, tucked in tight behind the windshield, I got 85mph max out of mine.

Unless your numbers are from a GPS, now would be a good time to subtract up to ten percent of your speedometer readings to accommodate the speedo error almost universally inherent in them.

A 'true' 85 mph out of a 300cc scooter would be, to put it diplomatically.....rather exceptional.

Not sure I agree here. For 250cc scooters, including my Morphous, then 85 mph would be several mph too optimistic. Although not a lot of testing and observations turned up, what I have read on the 300cc Forza tends to support Clampett's observation.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2017, 05:24:29 PM »

A 'true' 85 mph out of a 300cc scooter would be, to put it diplomatically.....rather exceptional.

But it's not a 300cc scooter.. It's only 279cc but pushing out 24.5Hp so, yea, it may be able to make 85MpH (135KpH).
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2017, 06:38:30 PM »

Other riders reporting GPS 84mph with 55 liter top cases. My top speed was a slow climb in speed WITHOUT a topcase mounted at the time.
Then again, it could just be a conspiracy by Forza owners!!!!!! You know scooter owners are like fishermen  blah
http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=7048
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2017, 03:46:26 PM »

The highest I ever had my Bet & Win was 98mph indicated which was probably about 86mph as my B&W was 12% off

Mind you my Bet and Win was modified to about 307cc.   

The B&W weighs less than the Forza, however I weigh more than average so there's that.
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« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2018, 03:45:37 AM »

Other riders reporting GPS 84mph with 55 liter top cases. My top speed was a slow climb in speed WITHOUT a topcase mounted at the time.
Then again, it could just be a conspiracy by Forza owners!!!!!! You know scooter owners are like fishermen  blah
http://www.hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=7048
Hi, I am the guy with the 55 litre top case. It really does those speeds and I don't even have a fishing rod. My Forza used to do 148 kmph (92 mph) before I put on the tall Honda screen. The 55 litre top box did not slow it down much. I will gladly trade speed for wind protection with the tall screen.

Before I put on the tall screen and came home in a 60 kmph tailwind. I was on my country road and not paying attention to my speed. The RCMP lit me up at 105 kmph. He let me get down to 99 kmph and pulled me over right at my driveway. I was going 1 km more to fuel up.

I only had the Forza 2 weeks. It was my first speeding ticket in 30 years. $171

At 105, more than 40 over speed limit, I could have got jail time and vehicle impounded which could cost more than the price of the Forza.

I wanted to joke that the cop was pulling over scooters but I sensed he had no sense of humour.
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2018, 09:06:02 PM »

DnwJ,
Good to hear that he cut you a bit of slack; more than 40 kph over the limit does change the game. A friend was clocked at 99 in a 50 zone here in Vancouver, on King Ed/ 25th Ave. Immediate towing of car, 7 day license suspension on the spot, and costs for towing, storage and ticket coming to about $1,000.00. A crappy way to end the day, to be sure. So, lets take the accommodation of speed and forgive him his dour disposition!

I have a fairly big box on my TMax- might be 47 litres or so. I can't say that it affects this bike or that a box affected the speed of any of my other bikes. Frontal aero changes do for sure, but once the wind gets past your bike and body, the box may be less of an issue. But it is true that speeds do just creep up.... esp on those less traveled and curvy roads.

ATB with the Forza, a scoot I always liked.
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2018, 12:54:01 AM »

My wife has a Forza 300 but we haven't done speed testing on it. On the subject of topboxes we regularly ride with a scooter group down the coast and we take the topboxes off  the bikes. The crosswinds don't affect us that much with the boxes off
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2018, 05:00:27 PM »

Not sure the Forza was a top seller for Honda in the US, but it competed with Vespa. The Reflex and Forza are the same scooter, the Forza is just the next generation. Honda missed a generation of Forza in the US before reintroducing it in 2012. I am looking forward to the 2018 Honda Forza. I also like the SH300i not imported to the US, the Honda Integra not imported to the US, and the Honda X-ADV. Enclosed is a video of the new Forza 300. Honda is bringing in a lot of introduction bikes, but not the good scooters.

https://youtu.be/F_bft1YBcmg
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