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« on: June 30, 2016, 12:22:04 AM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/video-i94-motorbike-unsecured-load-accident_us_57723665e4b0f168323acdcd?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&yptr=yahoo
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 03:15:39 AM »

Ouch!
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 04:24:46 AM »

Ouch!

That's an understatement!
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 07:41:39 AM »

Yikes! Is right.  Yup--ATGATT is the word of the day.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 02:28:17 PM »

Glad he was ok... and was geared up.


Not to be critical but the original video I saw showed he had several escape routes.  I wonder why he never took one.   Probably target fixation.
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 04:03:12 PM »

Think he guessed the bounce wrong, I try to stay way back when I see funky loads in trailers and trucks.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 10:32:55 PM »

That is a very good reason not to follow too close.  The other day we were driving on I-25 and a pickup trunk with an improperly secured load was dropping parts to a gas stove all over the road.  Anyone following too close would have had a high probability of injury.  We pulled up next to the truck and the driver just ignored my wife's attempts to notify her of the problem.  Must have been stoned or something...
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 11:25:51 PM »

Well this month I have had a flying mattress and an aluminum ladder come off pickup trucks in front of my car and a 5 gallon empty bucket bouncing out of a pickup in front of the scooter. Idiots are everywhere so be careful.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2016, 04:05:27 PM »

This video was also part of a discussion thread on Beginnerbikers.org, and the Kymcoforum. I agree with Maggie, I think the rider accelerated, then fixated on the mattress as it rolled off. There’s little sign of braking, or an attempt to swerve out of the way.

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2016, 04:07:53 PM »

From what I understand the boat driver turned himself in.

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 05:44:08 AM »

Add me to the group of those who believe in wearing protective gear even in the summer heat. I described my recent accident on another post. On the day of my accident it was 95 deg. At the actual time of my accident, it was muggy and in the 80's. Yes, I suffered great damage to my left leg. But was otherwise fine. I had my helmet and a mesh jacket on. There was a SMALL gash on my chin from the helmet strap. And there were some superficial scratches on my belly (I couldn't even feel those. I noticed them when I looked. But If my helmet hit something with enough force to cause the chin strap to give me a small gash, I don't even want to imagine what would have happened if my unprotected HEAD would have hit the same thing. Losing a leg is one thing. But brain damage or death is another. Thank God I'm hear to tell the story. Why? Because I wore my helmet in HOT, MUGGY weather.


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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 05:45:32 AM »

At this point, I don't know if I'll ever ride again. But IF I do, you can be CERTAIN that I'll wear my protective gear summer or winter.


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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2016, 01:14:03 PM »

Well I had some thoughts of not wearing all my gear Saturday with the suffering heat here. Glad you posted to remind me why it is so important.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2016, 01:50:21 PM »

Well I had some thoughts of not wearing all my gear Saturday with the suffering heat here. Glad you posted to remind me why it is so important.
When I arrived in Panama City, I noticed that it seemed as if 3/4 of the riders had no helmet and wore short sleeves. I was tempted to to the same. Also, on my job my co workers would tease me for wearing a full faced (modular) helmet and riding jacket for "just a scooter " . But I reminded them that my scooter traveled at highway speeds. And if I took a fall, my body would not know whether I had fallen off of a scooter or a Harley. When I spoke with them after the accident, they said that they were glad that I had NOT listened to them.


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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 02:16:05 PM »

I'd just like to let the forum know that Forbes is my hero. He's being humble, but his full story, and what he's gone through with hope and courage, can be learned on the Kymcoforum site.

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 04:09:50 PM »

This video was also part of a discussion thread on Beginnerbikers.org, and the Kymcoforum. I agree with Maggie, I think the rider accelerated, then fixated on the mattress as it rolled off. There’s little sign of braking, or an attempt to swerve out of the way.

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Agreed, the guy should have hard braked and then try for an escape route once the object's path was determined. Instead he looked to power pass by it and chosed the wrong path.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2016, 01:28:20 PM »

Looking at the video it's hard to also tell if he had kept the proper following distance. From the camera's vantage point both the Boat/SUV and the rider sped past them, so they were going faster relative to the camera. But were they going around the same speed (bike and Boat/SUV) relative to each other? Was the bike in the process of accelerating to pass the boat truck, was it too close behind, or at the proper distance, yet was still unable to maneuver out of the way?

It almost looks like the bike was accelerating towards the Boat/SUV when the object fell off. It's amazing what the human body can survive, but also the importance of wearing riding gear, especially if on a highway.

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2016, 03:30:10 PM »

Counting the seconds between the aft end of the boat passing a road defect and the m/c passing the same defect is ONE SECOND! The rider was way too close to the boat. That thing that fell off the boat looked loose to start with therefore the rider was not getting the "big picture" and asking, "What if...." properly.

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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 11:49:52 AM »

I responded to this post a year ago right after my life altering accident. I'm still here this summer and doing well. So one year later I  say that the best reason to wear your gear in the summer is so you can be here next summer.


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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2017, 01:50:13 PM »

Amen.
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2017, 04:26:46 PM »

Amen.

+uno!

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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2017, 03:47:03 AM »

Yikes! Is right.  Yup--ATGATT is the word of the day.
Several comments.....
1) He wasn't ATGATT.... watch the video especially when he first comes into frame on the left. He's wearing a riding jacket and FF helmet, but also wearing beach shorts and sneakers. Completely bare legs.
2) From when the roll first hit the road, it's 3.5 to 4 seconds before he impacts the roll. Almost 2 seconds before he even hits the brakes. As noted above, target fixation and he did have time (if he had the skill) so swerve right and go around the roll.
Very lucky guy....
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