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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2011, 12:03:55 AM »

With luck I will be ready to try starting the bike tomorrow.  I won't be ready to take it for a ride though.  I lost a clip that holds the fuel line to the throttle bodies and won't be able to get another until mid week.  I've got it rigged with some zip ties right now but wouldn't want to ride it that way.  Besides the front body work has to be off to put the clip on and I don't want to put put it on for a test ride then have to take it off again to install the clip.  I'll try starting it in the shop and letting it run just to see if everything works though.   
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« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2011, 06:44:54 PM »

Hope everything goes well for ya! Keeping my fingers crossed!
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« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2011, 08:39:51 PM »

It's alive.  I put the radiator back on this morning and put antifreeze, oil and gas in the bike and hit the start button.  It fired up and ran like a champ.  No leaks or funny noises and no error codes on the dash. 

I disabled the center stand switch that keeps the transmission from shifting out of low when it is up on the center stand and shifted it up through the gears in manual mode.  Shifted all the way up to 5th gear with no problems.  I then put it back in manual mode and revved the engine up until the speedo said 60 mph and the transmission shifted it's self up and back down smoothly. 

I may put just enough body work on it to do a short run up the road in front of my house but I'm not going to take it for a full test ride until I get the proper clip for the fuel line. 
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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2011, 08:42:12 PM »

If you don't hear anything else from me for a few days it's because my DSL modem is acting up.  I reported it to AT&T and spent about an hour and a half on the phone with them trying to correct the problem.   They finally said they would have to send me a new modem.  I though I would be off line until it arrives on Thursday but I walked in here and the old one was working again so I decided to post this while I could. 
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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2011, 12:46:16 AM »

I'm calling my repair job a qualified success.  Qualified not because I'm having any problems but because I need to put a couple of hundred miles on it to know for sure it will hold up. 

I bolted the seat and the front fairing on it today to get it to a basically street legal state and ran it up and down the highway in front of my house.  I put a total of about 4 miles on and took it up to around 60 mph several times in both manual and auto mode.  Everything worked just fine. No leaks, funny noises or jerky shifting.  Felt strange riding it with all the center body work missing though.  This is what it looked like.
   


I just had my feet on the brackets that the floor boards normally bolt to. 
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2011, 01:12:57 AM »

What kind of seat do you have? It doesn't look original?
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2011, 01:24:32 AM »

It's a Corbin, the long version to give me more room for my long legs. 
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2011, 01:47:34 AM »

Frigging amazing... I am just not sure what to say.

I am happy so far so good!  Fingers crossed!
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2011, 02:10:10 AM »

I had my fingers and toes crossed when I first fired it up.  I just knew I would see the dreaded FI light come on. 
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2011, 09:02:54 PM »

Frigging amazing... I am just not sure what to say.

I am happy so far so good!  Fingers crossed!
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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2011, 11:27:54 PM »

Just got back from the Suzuki place picking up the fuel line clip.  If all goes well I'll put it and the rest of the body work on tomorrow and go for a proper test ride. 
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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2011, 08:00:13 PM »

The bike is all back together.  Only problem I've go is I seemed to have messed up the wiring to the LEDs I added on my top case mount.  Not getting power to them so I will have to sort that out.  It can wait until another day though.  After I have some lunch I'm going to gear up and go ride for an hour or so.   
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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2011, 08:00:49 PM »

Good deal!! Have fun...
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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2011, 08:37:26 PM »

Look forward to hearing a good report.
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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2011, 12:23:53 AM »

I put about 110 miles on it today.  I kept the speed down and didn't do any heavy handed acceleration so the belt will have a chance to seat to the pulleys.  So far everything seems to be working just fine.  No slipping, jerking, funny shifting or strange noises. 
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« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2011, 01:35:26 AM »

Craig, you the Burg Man!
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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2011, 01:44:31 AM »

 
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« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2011, 05:40:22 PM »

That is so awesome!! I will pull for continued success!

I want to ask a stupid question for not being mechanically mind   Does this essentially give you a *new* engine, I mean in reality does your mileage revert to zero or are there other factors that are added in for life?

I guess this is just the transmission versus the engine life?

Ok I am rambling and showing my ignorance I will stop....
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« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2011, 08:35:39 PM »

Boy for what you did I would consider your LED lights to be minor fix. Congrats! Let me ask you this.......
If you were not able to fix this yourself, Would you of taken it somewhere to be fixed considering the expense of this job & the miles on your Burgman?
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« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2011, 09:38:18 PM »

Maggie the engine and CVT are separate so nothing was done to the engine other than pull it out of the bike and put it back in.  I also didn't change anything in the CVT except the belt so it was only a partial rebuild of it. 

I put a little over 200 more miles on it today so I've got a total of 319 miles now since the rebuild.  Still working fine.  I'm going on a group ride of somewhere around 350 miles tomorrow.  I'll go well over the 400 mile break in period on that ride so I can quit babying it.  If no issues crop up then I will declare the new belt install a success. 
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« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2011, 01:24:46 AM »

Well I guess I can start thinking it's a success.  After today's ride I'm up to 668 miles.  That's well past the break-in period so I started treating it as I normally would.  Did some aggressive runs through the twisties and some full throttle acceleration when passing cars on two lanes.  Still working just fine. 
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« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2011, 04:39:32 PM »

That's AWESOME!!!!!!!!  Congrats, Craig!
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« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2012, 05:05:04 PM »

Late to this party Craig, very impressed.  Great job and thanks for the photo documentation very interesting to follow.
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« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2012, 04:11:57 AM »

Thanks Dan.  I've got around 5,000 miles on the bike since I put the new belt in.  So far so good. 
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« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2012, 04:15:46 AM »

 
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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2012, 08:33:31 AM »

Forgot about this issue but I never had a doubt, Craig. After four years with a scooter I have done a reversal on my opinion of chain vs belt final drive. I know the Burgman is a different beast than most belt final drive scooters and belt changes are extremely far apart but I'm pretty sure I would rather replace a couple dozen chains and sprockets than one Burgman belt and third a dozen rather than a conventional CVT belt. Better yet, all my motorcycles over the last 30 years have been shaft drive and I've never had an issue (knocking on wood), just change the gear oil every once in a while. Not that the final drive would prevent purchase of any scooter, just an observation.
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« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2012, 02:54:35 PM »

Well to be accurate, the final drive on the Burgman is not belt.  It has a gear final drive and probably as reliable if not more reliable than a shaft.  All you do is change the lube every once in a while.   

It would be more fair to compare changing the belt in the transmission to having to repair the gears in the manual transmission on a motorcycle. Looked at that way, it about as complicated a job. Of course manual transmissions are very reliable and seldom have problems that require working on them now days.   
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« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2012, 05:31:38 AM »

Well to be accurate, the final drive on the Burgman is not belt.  It has a gear final drive and probably as reliable if not more reliable than a shaft.  All you do is change the lube every once in a while.   

It would be more fair to compare changing the belt in the transmission to having to repair the gears in the manual transmission on a motorcycle. Looked at that way, it about as complicated a job. Of course manual transmissions are very reliable and seldom have problems that require working on them now days.   

I've had a couple of full time all wheel drive vehicles with transfer cases running big wide metal belts, chain belts and such.
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« Reply #58 on: September 01, 2012, 03:39:54 AM »

Excellent write-up. Will have to bookmark this.
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« Reply #59 on: September 01, 2012, 09:56:59 AM »

Craig an excellent write up on a successful job done .Most people would shy away from doing this themselves ,which is a shame as time and patience are whats needed by the bucket load and not  nesacaraley great technique spannering .You know by doing it yourself that it was cleaned and done to a better standard than most dealers would normally do and you have saved loads of dosh . I have been that disgruntled with dealers over the last few years that i even mark items ,just to make sure they have actually either replaced or checked them .Mine is going for a service soon as still under warranty and i will be checking that the correct items are changed etc .
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