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General Discussion => My Other Toys/Hobbies => Topic started by: John Backlund on October 28, 2012, 07:18:39 PM



Title: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on October 28, 2012, 07:18:39 PM
Without getting too specific, I've been getting back into some casual non-hunting shooting sports. It's something I did years ago, but generally lost interest in a decade or two passed. It started again with a few irresistable pawn shop bargains several months back, and kind of took off from there.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on October 28, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Are you partial to handguns or rifles?  I have not participated in organized activities but enjoy both types.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on October 28, 2012, 08:43:38 PM
Both, but I'm a bit amazed at the price of ammunition these days, it seems to have at least doubled since I last paid any attention to it. Items that cost $13 for a box of fifty are now $35. The expense takes a lot of the 'casual-ness' out of it. 'Bang, bang, bang'= fifty cents, fifty cents, fifty cents. An hour of that and your feeling a bit tapped.

I'm not involved in any organized events either, though I have some friends who are huge into the cowboy action thing. I'm not much of a costume wearer so tend to avoid that sort of stuff, though they sure seem to have fun doing it.

I'm a casual can-popper.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: covert on October 29, 2012, 01:06:02 AM
I ran around shooting IDPA pistol competition until I could not run and duck anymore.  Took up clay target shooting - five stand and sporting clays.  


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: MaxB on October 30, 2012, 08:41:36 AM
I too did some shooting. Trap and skeet, Practical pistol shooting and dabbled in long distance precision shooting.
I too stopped group shooting due to time and cost.

I just go once in a while to keep somewhat proficient. (hitting the paper). hahahaha
i use to reload a lot especially pistol. may still reload some, but  need brass to do that.

cheaper than dirt has good prices on ammo.  cheaperthandirt.com
Especially if you get bulk ammo.

P.S. make sure you dont get corrosive primered ammo. A lot of russian still use them.

MaxB (slower and can't see too good anymore)



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: covert on October 30, 2012, 11:56:25 PM
Reloading shot shells is another facet of the shooting games. Judging form some friends they enjoy it more than actually shooting.  I load light 12 gauge shells for target shooting.  Somewhat "green"  reusing shot and hulls with biodegradable wads.  Even reuse fired primers in shot bags as rests for rifle and pistol shooters.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Buffalo on October 31, 2012, 12:41:42 AM
If you are just a can-popper then the cheapest way to shoot is to get a good 22.  A brick of 500 22 shells cost less than a box of 50 center fire shells and will pop cans with the best of them.   


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on October 31, 2012, 04:40:43 AM
If you are just a can-popper then the cheapest way to shoot is to get a good 22.  A brick of 500 22 shells cost less than a box of 50 center fire shells and will pop cans with the best of them.    

I'm in the middle of buying several .22 plinkers (currently on layaway), a pair of gently used Rossi M62 'gallery', exposed hammer slide-actions (Winchester M62 clones) I found at one of the local dealers, One for myself, and one for Teresa. I'm also going to add a Ruger 10/22 soon after, the full-stock 'international' version, either in blue finish with laminate stock, or the SS with walnut. To round out the .22's I'll also be buying (another) Ruger 5 inch heavy-barrel MKII ( I'm not too enthused about the current MKIII's so will find a nice 2nd gen pistol. I used one years ago back in Minneapolis for NRA bullseye league shooting.



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Buffalo on October 31, 2012, 05:26:08 PM
I've got a 10" bull barreled SS MKII.  It's a tack driver although a bit on the heavy side. 


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on October 31, 2012, 06:06:59 PM
I've got a 10" bull barreled SS MKII.  It's a tack driver although a bit on the heavy side.  

That's a bit long for me, but the two five inch heavy barrel MKII's I've owned in the past were great pistols...they sure were fun to field strip though.



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Dan on October 31, 2012, 07:25:25 PM
Growing up, I would go to the range with my Dad at times.  He owned an arsenal of hunting rifles and a few pistols.  I had a good time at target practice, was never really good but enjoyed trying to improve my aim.  Never got into as much as my other brothers but enjoyed the experience.

The last few years I've considered taking up the bow, joining a league or something.  It was pretty popular back in Wisconsin, don't know if it is around Boston.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on October 31, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
The last few years I've considered taking up the bow, joining a league or something.  It was pretty popular back in Wisconsin, don't know if it is around Boston.

In recent years, I've thought of chucking arrows too, something I could literally do in our own fenced back yard. One of the things that's kept me from doing it is that I don't want a camo hunting bow, but something more target orinted, maybe even an old-fashioned recurve bow, one of those beautiful laminated affairs that I remember people using from my early years.

There must be some interesting, high-tech compound target bows out there too.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Didiki on October 31, 2012, 09:11:29 PM
I've owned three guns in my life, and now that I think of it, they were all related to my career in forestry.

When I first started in forestry back in 1957, I bought an old Remington rifle from a neighbour of ours.  I think it was a 30-30 calibre.

We were doing forestry timber cruising and forest inventory work in Northern Alberta and went into the bush for 4-5 weeks at a time on horseback and pack train.  I was the youngest on the crew and the most expendable, the crew boss would put me at the front of the pack train, so if there was a bear attack I'd be the first to get it.  

The only thing I ever shot with the Remington was "tree branches".  One of our jobs was to shoot down branches from the tops of trees where the best cone crop was.  The cones would be sent down to Edmonton, Alberta for processing and cloning to make "super" trees.  My forestry boss had been a sniper in the Canadian Army during WWII and was a crack shot.  Every shot he made was on target.  I was a terrible shot, and maybe got one branch in ten.  His advice to me, was that if a bear attacked, to forget about shooting it, just turn the rifle around and club it to death.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t251/didiki2004/scan001001.jpg)

My first forestry job back in 1957, with my Remington.  18 years old. 

My second gun was a revolver.  I was doing forestry work in British Honduras, now Belize,  back in 1959-1961.  Because of my bush experience in Canada, I was put in charge of a forestry crew of Mayan Indians and sent into the bush to do timber cruising, timber inventory and act as liaison officer with the Archaeology Dept, as we used to come across many ancient Mayan ruins on our work. We'd map them and send the information back down to Belize City.  I was working out in the bush along the Guatemalan border, mostly on horseback as there were no roads in the area.  I was issued with a Smith and Wesson, .38 six shot revolver with a 6" barrel.  It was called a "police special".  It was totally useless for work in the bush.  With the high heat and humidity the thing kept rusting and sticking in the holster.

I was issued this revolver and because my crew were doing forestry work along the Belize-Guatemalan border, I was instructed to arrest anyone who came over from Guatemala do do illegal logging. Forestry officers also acted as peace officers.   I was never told that it was the Guatemalan Army that came over the border in their half track trucks with machine guns mounted.  They would cut down a few Mahogany trees and haul them across the border to sell the logs in Guatemala.  They did this to make some money for themselves as the Guatemalan government were notoriously slow in paying their own troops.  I sure as hell wasn't going to try and arrest heavily armed Guat soldiers, and me with a pea shooter .38.  

I gave this Smith and Wesson back to the Forestry Dept and bought an old Spanish made single shot 12 guage shotgun, which lasted me for 3 years in the bush and was a great firearm for shooting birds and snakes at close quarters.

Never had a firearm for my 40 years of forestry work in Canada.  Just too many damned regulations.



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Posted on: Today at 07:33:26 PM Posted by: John Backlund

In recent years, I've thought of chucking arrows too, something I could literally do in our own fenced back yard. One of the things that's kept me from doing it is that I don't want a camo hunting bow, but something more target orinted, maybe even an old-fashioned recurve bow, one of those beautiful laminated affairs that I remember people using from my early years.

There must be some interesting, high-tech compound target bows out there too.


John.

You might be interested in this.

http://www.archeryguy.com/williams/ArtWilliamsOct2010.htm (http://www.archeryguy.com/williams/ArtWilliamsOct2010.htm)

I knew Art Williams.  He was one of our local "characters".  He built great old fashioned recurve bows.  He made me one back in 1968, which I used for years and still have.  It's a 48 lb pull.  I paid $25 for it, which was tidy sum back in 1968.

He disappeared with the Mounties on his tail.  The local rumor is that he turned up in the Caribbean and was working with some South American drug cartel.  Who knows.  The stuff of legends.

________
Dick


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on October 31, 2012, 09:12:44 PM
When I was stationed in MI I got into bow shooting. We used to keep them in our trucks while on alert and then shoot them in the evening between the alert facilty and the runway. Lots of fun!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: ChandlerScoot on November 03, 2012, 07:00:22 AM
I bought my first firearm a month ago. Have not any time to fire it. My business has been extremely busy for some unknown reason. (actually, I traded some work for it!)
It's a Springfield Armory XDm 9mm

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/XDm9MM_zps6d18a04b.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 03, 2012, 07:13:45 AM
I wandered into our Rapid City Cabela's this afternoon and found that they had some Model 1891 Russian Mosin-Nagant rifles for $99, so I had to buy one at that price. It was made in 1942, came in a carboard box complete with a spike bayonet (which won't fit without a bit of dremel work is seems), a web sling, two canvas and leather ammunition belt pouches, and a handful of what appears to be small maintenance tools.....all liberally slathered in mid-century cosmoline.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: covert on November 03, 2012, 07:13:46 AM
A reliable handgun


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Maggie on November 03, 2012, 12:53:04 PM
Something must be in the air... Pete bought a Glock 17 yesterday.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 03, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
John, the Mosin-Nagant is supposed to be a nice rifle to have.  Nice price.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 03, 2012, 11:51:54 PM
Something must be in the air... Pete bought a Glock 17 yesterday.

Get 'em while you can.  :whistle:


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 04, 2012, 01:28:20 AM
Something must be in the air... Pete bought a Glock 17 yesterday.

Get 'em while you can.  :whistle:

Took care of my acquisitions 4 yrs ago. Plus the ammo/magazines to support them.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 05, 2012, 05:28:05 PM
Took care of my acquisitions 4 yrs ago. Plus the ammo/magazines to support them.

I bought an AR-15 several weeks ago, been thinking about getting one for years, thought it might be a good time to aquire one before the election. Depending on the outcome, there will likely be a 'run' on such items and the prices could conceivably double almost overnight, I saw the same thing happen in the early 90's.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 05, 2012, 05:42:51 PM
John, ammunition now becomes the issue. If that supply is "blocked" then the weapon becomes a club.  And that seems to be the tactic that will be used. (Sorry if this reply is too political.  If so, pls delete it.)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 05, 2012, 05:52:26 PM
We went out to a shooting area yesterday afternoon and fired five different arms, four for the first time. Teresa would only shoot the S&W M28 and Taurus M689 with .38 specials, and wouldn't try them with full .357's, nor would she shoot the Romanian AK47 or the Russian Mosin-Nagant (more or less correct pronunciation should be something like: "mo-SEEN na-GOHN") battle rifle. I have a slightly bruised shoulder today from the Mosin 7.62X54, but it didn't seem to recoil badly at all, and was rather pleasant to shoot. Now we just need some .22's and twirly-targets.

Our Cabella's currently has some nice, arsenal-refinshed Russian Nagant M1895 revolvers for $149 bucks, I might slip over at lunch and pick one up, they have late 1930's to mid 1940's production dates on them and are mechanically interesting due to their unique gas-sealing cylinder that moves forward when cocked and seals the cylinder/barrel gap. One of the oddball attributes of this feature is that the 1895 Nagant is the only revolver that can truly be 'silenced' with a suppressor. This revolver takes some rather special ammunition that was quite rare in this country in the past but is now fairly common, though it's a bit spendy at about $25 for a box of 50. The Nagant revolver was produced by Russian arsenals continuously from the mid 1890's through WWII. It fires a somewhat 'weak' 95-100 grain round at about 850 fps in modern commercial loadings, though the original military round was a bit more potent at around 1100 fps.

They have an interesting, archaic, 'constable' look about them. If I buy one, I'll post a photo of it this evening.

Edit! Oops! looks like I'll have to wait until next monday to snag a Ruskie antique, too much on the old plate this week.

Anyway, here's what they look like...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/e1922_2.jpg)

And back in the bad-'ol-days....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/499129_02_russian_nagant_m1895_revolver_640.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/nkvd-nagant.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 05, 2012, 05:54:21 PM
John, ammunition now becomes the issue. If that supply is "blocked" then the weapon becomes a club.  And that seems to be the tactic that will be used. (Sorry if this reply is too political.  If so, pls delete it.)

No problem, they both (AR & AK) have bayonet lugs, they'll make dandy spears.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: SocoPete on November 05, 2012, 06:54:19 PM
Tonight I pick up a 12ga. Never know what will happen.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 05, 2012, 07:01:55 PM
Tonight I pick up a 12ga. Never know what will happen.

Now I feel inadequate, all I have is an old Stevens bolt-action .410.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 05, 2012, 10:24:00 PM
12ga is about all I'm missing.  Won't be too much longer though.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 11, 2012, 06:05:36 AM
I've been redecorating my 'guitar room'......added a percussion section....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/AR15plusguitars.jpg)



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 11, 2012, 06:31:13 AM
This is a great photo Didiki, I tweaked it a bit to see if I could get the image a little stronger....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/Didiki.jpg)





Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 11, 2012, 06:49:36 AM
John, I love it! :2tu:


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 11, 2012, 06:54:49 AM
Dick, that's a great picture.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Maggie on November 11, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
I've seen that picture of you before, Dick.   I love it!!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 12, 2012, 12:13:38 AM
My crusty old (1942) commie noisemaker......Mosin Nagant 7.62X54 model 1891/30, $99 at Cabela's, complete with sling, spike bayonet, a couple of Russian ammo belt pouches, what more do you need?....cheap and fun....once you get the over fifty years of storage cosmoline goop out of it...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/MosinNagant1.jpg)



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: ChandlerScoot on November 14, 2012, 07:10:23 AM
Marie wanted her own CCW firearm so we picked up a S&W Shield for her yesterday at our favorite shop. We get some great discounts....I trade electrical work for guns. How better does that get?!



(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/th_SampW9mm.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 15, 2012, 12:46:00 AM
Marie wanted her own CCW firearm so we picked up a S&W Shield for her yesterday at our favorite shop. We get some great discounts....I trade electrical work for guns. How better does that get?!

([url]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/th_SampW9mm.jpg[/url])


I have local guy who's been trying for years (since the late 90's) to trade me a pistol for a charicature cartoon drawing of him. Every time I see him (not very often), he brings it up. Since he never manages to come up with a decent reference photo of him for me to work from, I now tell him that I don't do charicatures anymore, just to avoid having to eventually do one of him.

In the 1970's, I traded a motorcycle sidecar for a .45ACP 1917 Colt Officer's Revolver...I wish I still had that sidecar though.......as well as that revolver.

Did you get a free pen with it? I love it when they give away free pens with a gun purchase.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: ChandlerScoot on November 15, 2012, 01:39:40 AM
John, nothing is free these days... I put the pen in there as a scaling tool. I am glad my wife is partaking in this new thing of ours. We left NY for Phoenix 11 years ago. NYC always had a taboo thing against guns. It was as if you were thought of as a criminal to own one. I would like to get a compact .45 as my next one. The shop did have a 1983 9mm revolver on consignment for $785. It looked new and well cared for. Not sure if it was a Smith & Wesson.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 15, 2012, 02:39:52 PM
The shop did have a 1983 9mm revolver on consignment for $785. It looked new and well cared for. Not sure if it was a Smith & Wesson.

For that kind of money it almost had to be an S&W. That's a lot for a five shot 9MM (maybe six). It must have some minor collector value or something. If I was limited to five or six rounds in a revolver, I'd go for a compact .357, where'd I also have the option of using .38 Specials in it, both standard velocity and +P rounds....but, whatever floats your boat, it's all good.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 16, 2012, 01:45:27 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/AR15plusguitars.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Maggie on November 16, 2012, 02:30:26 AM
One of these things is not like the other :)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Buffalo on November 16, 2012, 02:33:25 AM
One of these things is not like the other :)

I noticed that, one of them has a cord plugged into it  :whistle:


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 16, 2012, 08:13:53 AM
Those Telecasters are bad-ass.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 19, 2012, 10:29:18 PM
I walked into my favorite shooting stuff dealer on my lunch hour today and one of the guys who worked there had a Mosin Nagant rifle they had just received on the work stand cleaning the storage cosmoline off of it as well as he could with rags. I noticed that it had the hexagon receiver of the pre-war rifles and had a much nicer stock and metalwork than the wartime 1942 Nagant I bought several weeks ago from Cabela's for $99.

Danged if I didn't buy the thing on the spot for $159. Made in 1927, and of obviously better quality than my 1942 rifle. What am I gonna do with two of the damn things? Oh well, worse thing have happened.

I'll post photos of it later.



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: MaxB on November 20, 2012, 12:41:30 AM
I just bought a marlin 795  to use for plinking target shooting. $149 at Dick's sporting good. this is a black plastic stock model.
I put a scope on it and we will see how good it shoots. Lots of stuff on youtube. I have an OLD model 39a that I got as a kid, and I hope this new model shoots as well as my old one does. Lots of youtubers say it shoots sub minute groups, better than the ruger 10/22.
I have done some of the smoothing out that is recommended on some of the vids. it cycles slick now. trigger work maybe in the future.  (can't leave things alone.)
maxb


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 20, 2012, 02:26:59 AM
What am I gonna do with two of the damn things? Oh well, worse thing have happened.

You know what they say, John.  One is none, two is one.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 24, 2012, 05:33:38 AM
Popped into Cabela's this morning and snagged a Russian M1895 Nagant revolver for their special $99.99 'Black Friday' deal on the gun. Of course it was a PITA all around to do it, and while I was there the federal NICS system was overwhelmed by apparently everyone and their mother buying firearms and the system was spotty at best. I had to stand around for about forty minutes waiting for the NICS call to go through, but finally was able to pay for the revolver and get the hell out of that clusterf#@k of a store and go home.

Anyway, here's the cute carton the little commie gunski came in.....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1503.jpg)

Complete with a lanyard cord, rudimentary cleaning rod, an old oil can (I think), and of course, the added child-safety lock..too bad we don't have some kids to test it around here, but all we have are a couple of cats, and they don't give a crap about this sort of thing...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1504.jpg)

Out of the box, and out of the plastic bag, and onto the newspaper in all it's gooey, greasy, oily, glory......ready to get scrubbed out....
the stocks are actually checkered walnut, but are almost black with preservative goo.......
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1506.jpg)

Scrubbed out and ready to go back into the Czar's service....too bad they assasinated him, and his entire family with this model gun back when the pinkos were taking over Russia.......My specimen was built in 1937 at Russia's Tula arsenal, it weighs 28 ounces (unloaded), has a 4.5 inch barrel. These guns were arsenal refurbished after WWII and put into long-term storage. I've read that many thousands of these guns were stored in Russian salt mines, at least the Mosin Nagant rifles were, and I assume the revolvers and pistols were too. These revolvers were manuactured from 1895 through late WWII.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1525.jpg)

It's a seven-shooter, with the goofiest-looking firing pin I've ever seen sprouting out of that hammer....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1522.jpg)

These things fire an odd little round that has the bullet inset into the brass casing with none of it protruding beyond the casing's lip, this is because of the pistol's unique gas-sealing cylinder that upon cocking the pistol, moves forward and seals the usual gap between a revolver's cylinder face and the Barrel throat. This unusual 'feature' make the 1895 Nagant the only revolver that can be effectively silenced with a suppressor threaded onto the barrel's muzzle end....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1519.jpg)

It's a compact gun, and is somewhat dwarfed by my S&W M28 .357, which looks like a bruiser next to the relatively frail-looking little Nagant. The Nagant revolver's action was, in fact, the predecesor to the S&W's double-action and S&W based it's revolver's internal mechanism directly on the 1895 Russian Nagant, so as unlikely as it may seem, they are definately shirt-tail relation......I find it's almost 'steampunk' archaic appearance quite interesting, it looks like something Sherlock Holmes might pack under his cloak, definately has that '1900' thing going on.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1516.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 24, 2012, 06:11:45 AM
Cool. That is an odd looking firing pin.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Buffalo on November 24, 2012, 05:54:42 PM
Do you need to carry that hammer down on an empty chamber like the old single action colts or does it have some kind of hammer block to keep it from going off if you drop it on the hammer?   


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Buffalo on November 24, 2012, 06:25:27 PM
Did a little Google searching and answered my own question.  The design is such that it precludes the hammer from striking the round unless the trigger is pulled so it is safe to carry fully loaded. 

Interesting side not, I saw where a lot of folks use S&W 32 short or long ammo as practice rounds in this gun because they a lot cheaper.  There are some issues with brass bulging or splitting when using these but other than that they function OK.  You don't get a complete gas seal like you do with the Nagant 7.62x38mm.  You can also get cylinders for it that are chambered to use 32 APC rounds.     


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 24, 2012, 08:00:32 PM
Did a little Google searching and answered my own question.  The design is such that it precludes the hammer from striking the round unless the trigger is pulled so it is safe to carry fully loaded. 

Interesting side not, I saw where a lot of folks use S&W 32 short or long ammo as practice rounds in this gun because they a lot cheaper.  There are some issues with brass bulging or splitting when using these but other than that they function OK.  You don't get a complete gas seal like you do with the Nagant 7.62x38mm.  You can also get cylinders for it that are chambered to use 32 APC rounds.     

Some are also using .32 H&R Magnums in them, but it causes a lot of 'discussion' as to the wisdom of doing so. On the other hand, the Nagant military loadings for the revolver are/were a lot hotter than the commercial stuff currently being loaded for it. If you look at old film videos (on youtube) of the Nagant being fired by Russian soldiers, you can clearly see the difference in recoil as compared to modern videos of people firing the gun, which has barely any noticable recoil at all, almost like a .22 LR. I've read that the replacment .32 cylinders often need some gunsmith tweaking to function properly, though I'd like to have one. I might buy several more of these things over the next month or two....you know, just in case of an impending zombie apocalypse or something.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 25, 2012, 08:10:54 PM
Couple of old comrades....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/DSCN1541.jpg)


Title: Re: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: covert on November 26, 2012, 05:55:49 AM
Webley?

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Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 26, 2012, 06:07:49 AM
Webley?

Model 1895 Nagant. Russian manufacture. Made in 1937.

The Webley might look similar from a distance though. They are both from roughly the same period, but other than being revolvers, they are quite different in many ways.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: ChandlerScoot on November 26, 2012, 06:21:02 AM
Nice score, John. I dared not go to Cabela's after last weeks gun buying frenzy. I wonder if they have any at my local branch. Would be nice to add to the collection. I ordered a .45 XDs through my gun guy for some more electrical tradeoffs. He had taken on some estate sale guns and had a couple of "oldies" that he will surprise me with once he gets pricing on.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 26, 2012, 07:33:17 AM
Sometime in December, I'll be buying a .45ACP 1911, I'm not sure what brand yet. I prefer it to be close to the basic original military configuration though, only with better sights. Nothing too fancy. Maybe a Remington or Ruger model, I don't want to spend much over $750 at the top end of my budget for one.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on November 26, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
I've heard good things about the Remington. Have considered one, but am content with my XD45 for now.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: msgtphil on November 26, 2012, 08:54:50 PM
Have fun, John! I have two Mosin Nagant rifles, a Hungarian made M-44 and a Russian Model 91/59 carbine (basically a modified 91/30 mated to an M-44 stock), $79,00 for the M-44 and $99.00 for the 91/59 but that was several years ago. Reliable bolt action, many have been converted to hunting by the frugal and those who depend on hunting to provide food.
  Only as a collector item would I spend for a Nagant revolver, ammo and operation are a bit odd. They have been selling in the $80.00 to $100.00 range for the past 20 years. Of course on the other hand at a hundred bucks or so it isn't a huge investment. A better buy and shooter would be to put
the hundred toward a Russian TT33 auto, one of the many variants or a clean Makarov, the later Soviet sidearm, either should be available for less than $200.00.

http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/ (http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/)
http://www.mosinnagant.net/global%20mosin%20nagants/default.asp (http://www.mosinnagant.net/global%20mosin%20nagants/default.asp)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 26, 2012, 10:36:21 PM
I haven't seen a Makarov at any of the local gunshops for years. I used to own a pretty decent Makarov in .380, wish I would have kept it.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: msgtphil on November 28, 2012, 12:07:39 AM
I haven't seen a Makarov at any of the local gunshops for years. I used to own a pretty decent Makarov in .380, wish I would have kept it.


Try http://www.gunbroker.com/ (http://www.gunbroker.com/) for anything you might be interested in purchasing. There is a list of participating individuals and businesses with FFL where you can have purchases shipped, transfer fees usually range from $10.00 to $25.00 plus any local law enforcement fees for background checks and such that might be required in your area.  

Edited to add - http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/Main.aspx? (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/Main.aspx?) is a good source of reasonably priced or at least less expensive ammo. Sign up for their e-mail notices for periodical huge discounts.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 28, 2012, 07:48:04 AM
I often peruse Gunsamerica and have bought a firearm through them before. I had it sent to First Stop Guns in Rapid City (I used to work there in the early 2000's). They charge $20 to do the transfer.

I've never bought ammunition via the internet though, I should look into it.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 29, 2012, 09:28:31 PM
Two Mosin Nagant 91/30's......

One made in 1927, and the other in 1942.....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/Nagants1927and19421.jpg)

The differences in these two superficially identical rifles is very apparent when looked at in the hand.

The 1927 rifle......
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/MosinNagant19271.jpg)

The wartime production 1942 example.....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/MosinNagant19421.jpg)

The milling on the older rifle is quite nice by comparison, and the later rifle's receiver shows many toolmarks and 'shortcuts' in production with the ommission of the 'hex' receiver for the easier and faster to manufacture round type, and there are other differences here and there that reflect the desperation of wartime arms production. The stocks on both rifles is highly unlikely to be original as both guns were arsenal refinished and put into storage after WWII. If either saw actual combat service is anyone's guess.

I paid $99 for the 1942 model, and a relatively hefty $159 for the 1927....I consider both to be incredible bargains for these interesting and historic old Russian relics.

Both function equally well, however. When the trigger is pulled, a big bang results every time.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Dan on November 29, 2012, 09:33:01 PM
That's fascinating, thanks for sharing that info John.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: John Backlund on November 29, 2012, 09:55:31 PM
But wait, but wait!!! there's more....

I've read estimates that as many as 37,000,000 Mosin-Nagant rifles were produced since 1891 in all their variations...no wonder they're cheap. They could still be found in use during the Vietnam war, and even today by insurgents in Afghanistan.

Mine are both Russian, and were made at the Izhevsk arsenal according to their markings.

A list of countries that used the Mosin Nagant rifle at one time or another (including the U.S.)....

Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Armenia
Austria-Hungary
Belgium
Bulgaria:Still in use by the 101st Alpine Battallion.
People's Republic of China: Used by People's Liberation Army during Chinese Civil War.
Cambodia
Cuba
Czechoslovakia
East Germany
Egypt
Estonia
Finland
Georgia
Hungary
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Israel: Used by Haganah
Japan: Formerly had stockpiles of Mosin-Nagant rifles captured from Imperial Russian forces.
Laos (Received from PRC, North Vietnam and Soviet Union forces)
Latvia
Mongolia
Montenegro
Nazi Germany (large stockpiles of Soviet weapons were captured and designated as the Gewehr 252-256 series following Operation Barbarossa)
North Korea
Philippines (U.S. made)
Poland
Romania
Russian Empire
Serbia
Soviet Union Yugoslavia

WW I Russian infantry with the 1891 Mosin-Nagant...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/800px-Defenders_NGM-v31-p369-A.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: scootermann on December 28, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
I don't think there is a forum on any subject that doesn't have several "gun threads." Kind of interesting...

This past year, my brother-in-law gave me a new Beretta Neos (.22) target pistol and my brother gave me my dad's Beretta A21 (.22) "mini" pistol. To my surprise, the A21 seems more accurate up to 25 meters. It, however, needs CCI Stingers to prevent misfires when pulling the trigger more than once a second. The Neos will shoot any old .22 long as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Also have a Colt New Frontier (single action revolver), Winchester lever action, Marlin bolt action—all .22, plus a Remington 12ga pump (straight stock and 24" barrel), and a German made Diana air pistol (deadly accurate—look out cans!).

Bang for the buck, I love shooting the .22 ammo, but if I could get one at the right price; a 36 cal black powder Colt Navy would be nice. They actually reissued them in the 70's in stainless steel, and now they are "collector" guns.



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: bagga on January 13, 2013, 05:31:58 PM
i have a 21a beretta and the thing shoots great. i was hitting clay pigeons from 25 yards. cci are a must in it for it to shoot right.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: scootermann on January 14, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
i have a 21a beretta and the thing shoots great. i was hitting clay pigeons from 25 yards. cci are a must in it for it to shoot right.

Gotta ask; were the pigeons stationary, or launched?


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Expat47 on January 15, 2013, 07:47:51 AM
It doesn't make any difference, Scooterman; no matter how you cook'em they still taste like mud!  :laugh:


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on February 06, 2013, 06:26:51 AM
New addition today, went to the gun shop on my lunch break (shouldn't have, I've been deliberately avoiding the place for the past month) and found a quite nice 1891 Argentine Mauser in very good shape with matching serial numbers. The only negative is that it was missing the original under-barrel cleaning rod. These were made by Loewe in Berlin, I don't think that this model was manufactured after 1896 but will have to research it further. It is very likey to be no 'younger' than 117 years old. The quality of these Mausers is exceptional. I couldn't resist and blew $250 on it, which I believe may be a little underpriced. It's ammunition is 7.65 'Argentine' (7.65X53mm) and is still being loaded by Norma though it's rather expensive. It is a 'modern' smokeless round that is comparable to the .303 British, .308, and 30-06.

When I was 16 or 17, I bought an identical 1891 Arg. Mauser from a hardware store in my home town of Pipestone, Minnesota....even at that young age,we could do things like that back then....good times, good times! So there's also a bit of a nostalgic element in buyng this particular rifle model. I have no idea what I'll do with it, other than perhaps shoot it a few times every year, then hang it back on the wall of my 'guitar room' and look at it. I'll need to buy a replacement cleaning rod for it, which can be found for around $35-$40, and to complete the 'set', I'll find an original bayonet for it, which in this case is a monster of a toad-stabber and something like eighteen inches in length. The bayonet for this rifle is around $100-$150

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/1891Argentine1_zpsf2620e03.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/1891Argentine4_zps5f43c3c4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/JohnBacklund/1891Argentine3_zpsedb5541a.jpg)



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: ChandlerScoot on February 06, 2013, 05:22:22 PM
Very nice rifles, John. Going to the gun shop can be a tricky thing as you never know just what they will have in stock!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Expat47 on February 06, 2013, 05:32:39 PM
Whoa!  =; I can see now why these SERIOUSLY need to be off the market! That plastic grip around the barrel is menacing and the pistol grip, alone, is foreboding even without that adjustable doohickit that goes against your shoulder. Oh... wait... is that one of those awful flash suppressors on the end of the barrel too! And, just to be kind to a fellow scooterite I'll not mention that ridiculously large bullet holder thingie.  :whistle:  :no:

Over here, years ago, I bought a Crossman air pistol and had to get a slip signed by the cops.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on February 06, 2013, 06:32:58 PM
Over here, years ago, I bought a Crossman air pistol and had to get a slip signed by the cops.

Yeah, but you can put your eye out with one of those things.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on February 06, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
Over here, years ago, I bought a Crossman air pistol and had to get a slip signed by the cops.

Yeah, but you can put your eye out with one of those things.

True statement, that is.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on February 07, 2013, 05:48:21 AM
I stopped by the gun shop on the way home from work this evening and found several 20 round boxes of Hornady 7.65X53 Argentine ammunition, but at $31.00 a box, I only bought one for now. Cabelas didn't have any, which kind of surprised me. This rifle costs almost three times what my Russian Mosin Nagant 7.62X54 does to shoot. 'Boom' $1.55,.....'Boom' $1.55,.....'Boom' $1.55........

That's some spendy plinking.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Expat47 on February 07, 2013, 06:29:22 AM
Over here, years ago, I bought a Crossman air pistol and had to get a slip signed by the cops.

Yeah, but you can put your eye out with one of those things.

True statement, that is.

But eyes are really, really small targets!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on February 07, 2013, 04:30:58 PM
Over here, years ago, I bought a Crossman air pistol and had to get a slip signed by the cops.

Yeah, but you can put your eye out with one of those things.

True statement, that is.

But eyes are really, really small targets!

That's why these things had bayonets, so you could put your eye out without wasting expensive ammunition.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: bagga on February 08, 2013, 03:59:43 PM
i have a 21a beretta and the thing shoots great. i was hitting clay pigeons from 25 yards. cci are a must in it for it to shoot right.

Gotta ask; were the pigeons stationary, or launched?
i have a 21a beretta and the thing shoots great. i was hitting clay pigeons from 25 yards. cci are a must in it for it to shoot right.

Gotta ask; were the pigeons stationary, or launched?
i have a 21a beretta and the thing shoots great. i was hitting clay pigeons from 25 yards. cci are a must in it for it to shoot right.

Gotta ask; were the pigeons stationary, or launched?
It doesn't make any difference, Scooterman; no matter how you cook'em they still taste like mud!  :laugh:
i have a 21a beretta and the thing shoots great. i was hitting clay pigeons from 25 yards. cci are a must in it for it to shoot right.

Gotta ask; were the pigeons stationary, or launched?

stationary, we hang them from a string with plastic clips. i bought the 21a last year and for being a short barrel it really shoots nice.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Rogwing on March 26, 2013, 02:00:10 AM
Growing up, I would go to the range with my Dad at times.  He owned an arsenal of hunting rifles and a few pistols.  I had a good time at target practice, was never really good but enjoyed trying to improve my aim.  Never got into as much as my other brothers but enjoyed the experience.

The last few years I've considered taking up the bow, joining a league or something.  It was pretty popular back in Wisconsin, don't know if it is around Boston.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Rogwing on March 26, 2013, 02:05:30 AM
Dan , my father was the Mass longbow state champion in 1958 (year I was born)..he also made long bows..built a special oven to cook the resin between laminates...made them for all 3 grandkids...then in his eighties bought a recurve bow that was so powerfull he couldnt string the thing..heck I barely could do it....its all gone now with his passing..wish Id kept that trophy..my brother or sister may have it not sure,,...Rog
Looking at getting the CCW an a .38 revolver for the house and a .22 magnum for creek walkin


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Dan on March 26, 2013, 04:06:30 AM
Hope you can still find one of his bows Rog.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: ChandlerScoot on March 26, 2013, 06:25:08 AM
Rog, You'll have a heck of a time trying to find ammo for any firearm purchase short of a shotgun.
On another note, I hope you find that bow. Sounds like a great thing to have of which belongs in the family.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Rogwing on March 26, 2013, 02:55:56 PM
What Im reading lately is ammo will be caught up in a year or so..but guns will require a liability insurance per gun ..thats the scary part!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on March 26, 2013, 09:10:34 PM
What Im reading lately is ammo will be caught up in a year or so..but guns will require a liability insurance per gun ..thats the scary part!

Yes, ammunition will catch up once all the panic/hoarding in anticipation of new, restrictive legislation has subsided, which it has begun to already.

This is the first I've heard of any requirement pending to have firearm liability insurance. If it was to come about, and the rates were based on accurate statistics, such insurance should be very inexpensive. I've 'bent a fender' once or twice over the years, but I've never experienced a firearm-related mishap and know of only one 'incident' since about 1965 where there was an injury to an aquaintance who was struck with birdshot while pheasant hunting, and that was far from serious.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Rogwing on March 27, 2013, 02:48:47 AM
Ive read more than one article about it Crab boy (lol)...the talk is it will be snuck into legislation where it will suddenly appear with new purchases and then sorta grandfathered in with possesion for all guns in collections..here in NC you have to get a permit from the local sheriff for each handgun..so the records are there..one article speculated at $500 per handgun per year...hope its not true, but it wouldnt surprise me...Rog


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on March 27, 2013, 05:28:14 AM
..one article speculated at $500 per handgun per year...hope its not true, but it wouldnt surprise me...Rog

That's not an insurance premium, that's extortion, if not outright punishment for ownership. That cost cannot be justified by statistics and is entirely out of proportion to any real accident or theft (and subsequently used in a crime) 'risk'. There are legislative watchdogs in the form of both individuals and organizations that will give loud public notice of things sneaked into any new legislation before they can be passed. And even if it did, I would expect the NRA would very soon offer to provide such 'insurance' through their organisation (which I am a member of) to offset the cost to gun owners.

In South Dakota, there is only one background check by the county Sheriff's office when a four-year (soon to be five) concealed carry permit is applied for. No purchase permit is required in South Dakota (and many other western states as well) for individual firearm purchases other than the federally required NICS call-in background check at the time of purchase for each firearm sold by an FFL dealer.

Having said that, I would rather not turn this thread too much towards the political end of things, as it will eventually (inevitably) lead to it being locked. We're doing fine so far, but they never end well if they're allowed to wander very far from the casual 'looky what I got!' kind of post.   :2tu:


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Rogwing on April 15, 2013, 02:12:08 AM
JB Ive read as insurance..as a tax..as a fee...your right it is subsiding and will always be a hot topic..not arguing here...I doubt the NRA would jump on insurance unless it is mandated across the country...last time I went into Dunhams there were .22's and shotgun shell and not much more...never had a firearm..a few pellot pistols..hell all the trouble I had with the last crazy chick I dated they may nnot let me get a handgun! lol....Rog


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: ChandlerScoot on July 31, 2013, 02:04:56 AM
I've been back at it working on my friends gun shop. I had my apprentice do a couple hours worth of work last week while I finished it up yesterday with another two hours installing a door annunciator system. My friend handed me a Remington Versa Max shotgun and said you earned it! I'm a happy camper with a $1100 firearm :)  I did have to pay the $92 in taxes....





(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/IMG_2092_zpscbf86bbe.jpg) (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/Chandlerazman/media/IMG_2092_zpscbf86bbe.jpg.html)




(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/IMG_2094_zps5e3b0fbe.jpg) (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/Chandlerazman/media/IMG_2094_zps5e3b0fbe.jpg.html)



(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z229/Chandlerazman/IMG_2093_zps3649d974.jpg) (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/Chandlerazman/media/IMG_2093_zps3649d974.jpg.html)




I will eventually go to the range, I promise! Marie and I last went a week before Christmas. Been a while but life and work get in the way  :)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: billg on July 31, 2013, 02:35:46 AM
Nice! :2tu:


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: carewser on May 26, 2014, 05:03:09 AM
Here's my latest hobby:

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i129/carewser/0b51de2a-a4d1-4d44-aaac-c8f4b677f72d_zpsb70595f5.jpg?t=1401073753)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i129/carewser/e422c159-215d-4cc0-8ee2-d787685ee757_zpsd998a29d.jpg?t=1401074106)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on May 28, 2014, 12:08:01 AM
Airsoft guns?


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: carewser on May 28, 2014, 04:58:43 AM
Nope, airguns/BB guns/Pellet guns/CO2 guns


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on May 28, 2014, 07:35:49 AM
Nope, airguns/BB guns/Pellet guns/CO2 guns

Is the 'Uzi' full auto or semi?


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: carewser on May 30, 2014, 12:45:28 AM
The Uzi is weird, it has a switch to go full auto but it won't go there so it is locked out of being full auto because any fully automatic weapon is illegal in Canada (I don't know about the states though). It only takes about 20 minutes to take it apart and bypass the switch to make it go full auto but i'm going to wait until the warranty expires before I do that since I don't trust myself to screw it up. Thankfully, the warranty on it is only 90 days. The warranty on my .357 magnum replica is a year. There's a guy that lives in Vancouver that sells replica airguns over the internet that has posted dozens of airgun videos on youtube and in one of them he shows how to customize the Uzi to go full auto.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on June 04, 2014, 05:03:23 PM
What kind of velocity do they chuck BB's out at?


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: carewser on June 05, 2014, 12:10:33 AM
My Uzi replica shoots BB's at 360 feet per second while my .357 Magnum replica shoots pellets up to 435 fps and BB's up to 465 fps of course these numbers vary a lot but needless to say if you get hit by one it'll leave a mark to say the least.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on June 05, 2014, 06:58:50 PM
You'll put your eye out with those things.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/a-christmas-story-movie-poster-10202552921_zpsb7f647c2.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/a-christmas-story-movie-poster-10202552921_zpsb7f647c2.jpg.html)



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: carewser on June 06, 2014, 01:54:56 AM
I was talking to a customer the other day about my BB guns and he said his cousin actually lost his eye because just as he was peeking into their barn, a friend of his was aiming his BB gun through the hole and hit him right in the eye so that line from, "A Christmas Story" came true. I said he was lucky he survived.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: LDB on September 22, 2014, 06:44:29 AM
I am researching AR's and hope to get one in a week or three if I learn enough to satisfy myself with my choices by then.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: msgtphil on November 11, 2014, 01:53:17 AM
Maggie is toting a Mosin-Nagant. Maggie of 'Walking Dead' that is. Appears to be Finnish, thought I saw the big metal nose piece on the fore stock but not absolutely sure. I don't believe Finnish were fitted with soviet style bayonet so not sure if I'm correct about it being Finnish or if the show outfitters bolted on a bayonet.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: carewser on December 01, 2014, 07:37:49 AM
I'm like the crabster if i see a screamin' deal on a gun i'll buy it even if i'm not really in the market for it so here's my latest, it's a Walther CP99 compact replica complete with laser scope: (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i129/carewser/IMG_0904_zpsa90528be.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on December 15, 2014, 07:15:28 AM
We recently added this Ruger LCP .380, though it's really a replacement for the Taurus .380 I owned due to the latter gun's nasty habit of dropping the magazine out of the frame with just a bump to it's base, or even a tight grip, without ever touching the mag release button. This had the very real potential of rendering the gun a single-shot weapon at the most 'inconvenient' moment. I've had very good luck with Taurus firearms in the past, and have owned many of them, but this malfunction was intolerable in a defense weapon that must be reliable above all else.

I added a Crimson Trace laser to it, which is a very good idea for such a small pistol with relatively poor sights. Teresa usually carries it when she goes for long runs in the Black Hills. It's admittedly a 'mouse gun', but a lot better than a pointy stick.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/Ruger1_zps08fb3de6.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/Ruger1_zps08fb3de6.jpg.html)

An extra bonus is that, when unloaded, it also doubles as a $475 cat toy......
(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/Image8_zps4a177107.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/Image8_zps4a177107.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: EZMark on December 15, 2014, 04:26:40 PM
I've got the same gun without the laser. I like how small it is, but I don't like having to pull the trigger all the way every time. Decreases accuracy.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on December 16, 2014, 01:04:36 AM
I've got the same gun without the laser. I like how small it is, but I don't like having to pull the trigger all the way every time. Decreases accuracy.

I don't care for that 'feature' much either, but we bought it primarily for it's small size and concealability, especially for Teresa's use during her solo runs. Teresa's not much of a firearm fan, but is pragmatic enough to appreciate it's potential value under certain (admittedly rare) circumstances, so for her purposes, I needed something that was very simple to use, something without switches, levers, or anything that requires much other than basic 'point-and-shoot' functionality, which, as you know, these types of pistols provide.



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Greg on January 29, 2015, 07:18:00 PM
So I'll jump into this foray and add my stuff here.  I have several weapons.  One is the S&W 4006 SS .40 cal semi-auto that was my service weapon with the Alaska State Troopers, and which was given to me on my retirement.  I don't like the gun as it is heavy and, IMO, not vey well balanced, and the same-adjustable sights are off a bit.  Mostly is just sits on a shelf.  I keep my Glock 17 9mm handy for "just in case."

I have a Ruger 10-22 that is fun to shoot with--a can popper, if you will, but the good one is my Ruger Mini-14 SS with composite stock and a 3--9 power scope on it.  However, my very favorite one to play with is my Connecticut Valley Arms .50 caliber plainsman muzzle loader.  I just love all the smoke and noise from a black powder rifle.  Loads of fun.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: scootermann on January 29, 2015, 10:01:30 PM
With the exception of my S&W Airweight 38 special, and of course shotguns, all of my guns are .22s. Have to say the Colt revolver is my favorite. And accurate—yes!

About 10 years ago, my teenage sons and (then new) bride were out plinking. Sally stood on the sidelines patiently watching as everybody had a turn with the little single-action Colt. When she ask if she could have a go, you could almost hear my son's "sigh" as he pulled a quarter from his pocket and set it up in the target area at 25 yards. She nailed it on the second shot.

My son turned to me and said under his breath, "S#!t, dad, you better be careful." Which to this day is our catch phrase when someone underestimates somebody.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on February 02, 2015, 06:28:23 AM
However, my very favorite one to play with is my Connecticut Valley Arms .50 caliber plainsman muzzle loader.  I just love all the smoke and noise from a black powder rifle.  Loads of fun.

I don't have any now, but I've owned perhaps a dozen black powder guns over the years, mostly replica civil war era cap-and-ball revolvers like the 1860 Colt Army .44 and 1858 Remington, also a few flintlock pistols here and there. But without question, the most impressive black powder arm I ever had was a shortened Brown Bess flintlock musket (replica of course) that had been 'indianized' with brass studs pressed into the stock and a few other minor decorations. Being a Brown Bess, it was a .75 caliber smoothbore and hurled a very large lead ball downrange with a very satisfying cloud of powder smoke. I was amazed that the thing actually went off the first time I loaded and fired it, but it seemed reasonably reliable. I really liked the delayed ignition that this type of arm produces when touched-off, with a very noticible 'fooosh-BOOM' as the priming powder ignited in the lock's flash pan, then set off the main charge a fraction of a second later.

I've always wanted another Brown Bess, or perhaps the similar Charlieville musket from the revolutionary period, but the cost of a decent replica has prohibited me from buying another...so far anyway. I haven't checked for several years now, but a new Brown Bess was going for a bit over $1000 last I looked into it.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: rut3556 on October 10, 2015, 09:16:39 PM
(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/rut3556/IMG_3660.jpg)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on October 23, 2015, 05:44:18 AM
As I mentioned in another thread, I just added this blued Cimarron 1911 to 'the collection', it's very nice considering the relatively reasonable price, and is quite faithfull to the original pre-WWI Colts.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/IMG_20151022_163347195_zpskmfayq4p.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/IMG_20151022_163347195_zpskmfayq4p.jpg.html)

I also recently purchased this 4 inch, stainless steel, Rossi .38 Special DA revolver I found at a local pawn shop...

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/IMG_20151014_202819_zpsn3e2w8of.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/IMG_20151014_202819_zpsn3e2w8of.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: AKforza on October 23, 2015, 07:28:01 AM
My favorite plinker is a M&P 15 VTAC 556 with the sweetest trigger pull I've ever used. Its got a Aim Point  red dot that's deadly out to about 75 yds and sits on a 5-25x50 that's good to 600 yds. Got a thing for lever actions so I also like my Marlin 1895 GS 45/70. as for pistols I've got a couple colts 45 ACPs Govt and officers models but like a revolver and I'm fond of my Ruger Alaskan 454. Love to reload. Greg lets go shootin some time!



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on November 05, 2015, 09:02:39 AM
New toy...

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/Buckmark%20800%20pix_zpsllav70qv.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/Buckmark%20800%20pix_zpsllav70qv.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: scootermann on November 06, 2015, 04:24:35 PM
That is one pretty piece of machinery. Looks brand new.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on November 06, 2015, 09:57:45 PM
It is. I wanted a .22 for some time and had planned to buy another Ruger MK semi-auto, but the latest gen-3 models had changes (improvements?) that I wasn't very pleased with, so I bought the Browning instead. I'm still going to get the Ruger, but I'll just wait until a nice, older MKI or MKII pops up.

As for this Browning Buckmark, it's a grade above their standard model, I liked the wood grips.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on November 11, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
I went 'shopping' yesterday, starting at Cabela's (where I almost always walk out frustrated at their prices), then wandered through three or four pawn shops, ending up at the local store where I used to work in the late 90's, 'First Stop Gun And Pawn' located in downtown Rapid City. All the while, I was thinking that I'd sure like to find a nice, older, Taurus model 66, either a 4 inch or 6, though the odds of coming across one locally were almost zero. I've owned several examples of this model over the years and always liked them, sort of a poor man's Smith & Wesson model 19, Brazilian-made, and a very nice revolver overall. Well, at 'First Stop', after standing around talking with the guys there for about a half-hour, I noticed a familiar form lying in the back row on the lowest of three shelves in one of the handgun display cases, and it was a 4 inch Taurus model 66 in very good condition, a few tiny nicks in the grips, but still about 98%. Bright commercial blue with the nice, older style, wood grips...'old school cool', no sign of black plastic (polymer) anywhere to be seen. Nothing but ordnance steel and wood. Without hesitation, I bought it for $300 plus tax, and brought it home.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/IMG_20151110_094225_zpsklpw0rvi.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/IMG_20151110_094225_zpsklpw0rvi.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/IMG_20151110_093109089_zpsnztmjtlc.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/IMG_20151110_093109089_zpsnztmjtlc.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/IMG_20151110_094632_zpswv2qgtao.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/IMG_20151110_094632_zpswv2qgtao.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on November 17, 2015, 03:48:28 AM
A local friend is moving to Arizona for the winter and offered to sell me an older Browning gun safe before he leaves, so for $300, I now have a smaller Browning Gold Series safe to help keep my growing collection of shooting irons out of 'unauthorized hands'. It shows some cosmetic wear, but still looks pretty good, and it's size suits my needs very well. It's 60X24.5X19, and must weigh at least 300 lbs empty. It was a booger moving it, but with a lot of sweat and liberal cursing, it now rests in my little guitar-art man cave.

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/IMG_20151116_130751164_HDR_zpsuuispoeh.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/IMG_20151116_130751164_HDR_zpsuuispoeh.jpg.html)

(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x467/scooterdoodler/IMG_20151116_174255420_zpsorcxwqmb.jpg) (http://s1183.photobucket.com/user/scooterdoodler/media/IMG_20151116_174255420_zpsorcxwqmb.jpg.html)



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on November 30, 2018, 06:33:34 PM
I've been going through a 'cowboy' stage lately, found this Uberti 'Schofield' .45 at a pawn shop a few days ago. I've sorta wanted one for years, but they're priced a bit above my pay grade at $900-$1100, but this one was very slightly used, and was offered at a price just low enough to push me over the edge, so there it is. I'm generally only interested in classic arms with some history behind them, and the Schofield definitely qualifies.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PLWH4xr0/IMG-20181129-084045208.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLWH4xr0)


(https://i.postimg.cc/4KPfGykV/IMG-20181129-113456691.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KPfGykV)

Others in my little collection that qualify as 'classic' designs are my Uberti SSA (Single Action Army), Smith & Wesson model 25, and Remington R1 1911.

Sooner or later, I'll aquire a Uberti 'Winchester' 1873 lever rifle, but like the Schofield was, they're priced a little steep for me at $1100-$1300




Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: minimac on November 30, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
Very nice additions to the collection.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Maggie on December 01, 2018, 12:31:53 AM
Super nice!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Expat47 on December 01, 2018, 08:55:14 AM
Nice pieces.

Fortunately Greece is a "gun free zone" (accept if it's a shotgun for hunting, or you've got a permit, or you just don't care about the law) so we get to have sword fights down town.



Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Virginian on December 13, 2018, 10:23:51 PM
I've been recently working on my load development for my Fn Scar 17 Heavy.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guns/i-PScnbZz/0/5edbac84/XL/D78BAB70-2A73-4EB7-A696-38BD9DD20F23-3238-000002F11F19C64B-XL.jpg) (https://ejohnson-photography.smugmug.com/Guns/i-PScnbZz/A)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: minimac on December 14, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
Super!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Virginian on December 14, 2018, 08:48:15 PM
Super!
Note the redneck brass catcher. a tripod with a hat!  :laugh:  :hs1:


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Yellow Jacket on December 22, 2018, 10:53:31 PM
That looks like a pretty serious piece of equipment.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on December 29, 2018, 11:23:27 AM
I've recently been getting more into the reproductions of old stuff, cowboy arms, etc.

Bought this the day after Christmas...

(https://i.postimg.cc/phkKqkjC/IMG-20181226-110201669.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/phkKqkjC)


(https://i.postimg.cc/XZbFWtcx/IMG-20181226-110138082.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZbFWtcx)

It's a Uberti 1873 'Winchester Sporting Rifle' in .45 Colt.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Yellow Jacket on January 07, 2019, 02:38:48 AM
My thanks to Crabby for reviving this thread. I wasn't aware of it. Now that I am, I'll tell of my shooting years. I learned basic marksmanship when I was about 14 through a local Conservation League. In this photo that's me to the right in the kneeling position. The father and son instructors are standing directly behind us.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/qzPtRHVq/IMG-5214.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzPtRHVq)

While serving in the Navy I found that I was pretty good with the old M1911 .45. Later I bought a very good High Standard .22 target pistol and joined a local shooting club. We had a series of matches through the winter months which became my winter hobby for about 25 years. Except for the first year when I was high Expert, I shot in the Master class, getting high Master a couple years. Second picture was sometime in the late '80's.
  I still own both of the .22 in those pictures.

 
(https://i.postimg.cc/0rrr0y9r/IMG-5215.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rrr0y9r)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Expat47 on January 07, 2019, 08:40:41 AM
I can relate to the 1st photo. The local gun range was (still is?) in the basement of the Jr. High school and many an evening was spent down there.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on January 08, 2019, 06:14:10 AM
I picked up a slightly 'ratty' 1970 Colt Lawman MKIII .38/.357 early last month...
(https://i.postimg.cc/GBQLxG6Z/IMG-20181204-162148750-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBQLxG6Z)

Then decided to spend a few bucks on it and have it 'freshened up' a bit. Got it back from the re-blue guy today. It looks a lot better, but the cylinder latch took on reddish tint. I may try to find a new one to replace it.  
(https://i.postimg.cc/w3P626bT/IMG-20190107-154509970-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3P626bT)

The Walnut stocks are currently at another guy's shop who specializes in gunstock refinishing and checkering. I'll have them back on the Colt in two-three weeks.

I'll post a photo of it when it's all back together.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on January 08, 2019, 06:18:34 AM
This is another one of my newer shooting toys I've been spending quite a bit of range time with lately...

(https://i.postimg.cc/ct1X8ywp/IMG-20181228-074956509.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ct1X8ywp)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on January 08, 2019, 06:24:14 AM
Several others currently in the flock...

Uberti .38/.357, Smith & Wesson M25 .45 Colt, Remington R1 1911 .45ACP.....
(https://i.postimg.cc/hzD928vx/IMG-20181121-165529295-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hzD928vx)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Yellow Jacket on January 08, 2019, 06:04:12 PM
I like your Ruger.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Maggie on January 12, 2019, 05:06:06 PM
That Remington is so cool looking!


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on January 13, 2019, 07:14:09 AM
I like your Ruger.

It's a decent pistol, but the front sight had loosened three times in about 150 rounds. I finally just tightened it up with a dose of red Loctite, it should be on there forever now.

The small hex bolt used on the pivot point of the barrel/receiver also kept turning out, so blue Locktite fixed that.

To maximize the ruger's potential, it will also need to have a competition trigger group installed. I haven't had it measured yet, but it must have a 4-5 lb trigger letoff as it comes from Ruger. It needs to be down around 2.5 lb's for any kind of half-serious indoor competition shooting.

I'll probably have $1000 into the MKIV by the time it's properly 'sorted out', and that's before I put a set of left-handed target grips on it.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on January 13, 2019, 07:19:52 AM
That Remington is so cool looking!

Yes, it is. It has a lot of 'Elliot Ness' in it, even if I don't.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ThzNmCYQ/IMG-20181012-100114965-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThzNmCYQ)


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Yellow Jacket on January 13, 2019, 05:54:59 PM
My brother shot a Ruger, not a stainless one like yours, for many years. He was quite the craftsman and did a lot of work to his, very nice custom grips and even an overtravel stop on the trigger. He never had any issues with things coming loose.  


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: jdbrot on January 13, 2019, 06:30:59 PM
My Dad shot a Mark I in competition for years, never a misfire or loose parts. It was disassembled and cleaned a million times. A nice pistol.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: JBCrabbypants on January 14, 2019, 09:14:47 AM
My brother shot a Ruger, not a stainless one like yours, for many years. He was quite the craftsman and did a lot of work to his, very nice custom grips and even an overtravel stop on the trigger. He never had any issues with things coming loose.  

I've owned four .22 Ruger semi-auto pistols over the years, all MKI's and MKII's, I never had parts come loose on any of them, until I bought this new MKIV, that is.

Even so, the convenience of being able to push one button and slip the barrel/receiver off the frame for cleaning, and equally easy re-assembly, makes the gun a LOT easier to live with than any of the older MK's, which were a genuine pain-in-the-butt to field strip.


Title: Re: Shoot'n sports
Post by: Virginian on July 10, 2019, 10:57:15 PM
My brother shot a Ruger, not a stainless one like yours, for many years. He was quite the craftsman and did a lot of work to his, very nice custom grips and even an overtravel stop on the trigger. He never had any issues with things coming loose. 

I've owned four .22 Ruger semi-auto pistols over the years, all MKI's and MKII's, I never had parts come loose on any of them, until I bought this new MKIV, that is.

Even so, the convenience of being able to push one button and slip the barrel/receiver off the frame for cleaning, and equally easy re-assembly, makes the gun a LOT easier to live with than any of the older MK's, which were a genuine pain-in-the-butt to field strip.

Truth in this statement!

I used my Bass Pro reward points and bought a Ruger Precision rifle in 22 WMR. So far it's a shooter and used the same magazines as the Ruger 10/22.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guns/i-MqQVVFG/0/0a04ec30/XL/20190513_175156-XL.jpg) (https://ejohnson-photography.smugmug.com/Guns/i-MqQVVFG/A)

I was out ground hog hunting and got to watch these hens with their chicks most of the morning.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/2019-Hunting-/i-cDrZQ5N/0/a6edceb7/XL/20190610_145545-XL.jpg) (https://ejohnson-photography.smugmug.com/2019-Hunting-/i-cDrZQ5N/A)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/2019-Hunting-/i-NvjGvsq/0/ab48137c/XL/20190610_175637-XL.jpg) (https://ejohnson-photography.smugmug.com/2019-Hunting-/i-NvjGvsq/A)